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Hey all...want to repaint my truck original Boxwood/Wimbledon...quite expensive...want to do this myself if possible..
should I use an HVLP gun/Preval...what type of paint enamel, lacquer? Would like to see and hear about past experiences and varying methods...

I am trying to save some money here..so who isnt but I would like satisfactory results...I have been contemplating the old ghetto Rustoleum job with a sprayer...but.. input appreciated!

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I always used the Harbor Freight spray guns with some enamel. I did professional jobs and never had any trouble. Could paint an entire truck with about 2 gallons. Which if you buy cheap paint, that would run abut 300-400 dollars.
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HVLP for ease of use, and I would think single stage paint would save considerably.
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69SCJ wrote:HVLP for ease of use, and I would think single stage paint would save considerably.


please forgive my total ignorance but "single stage paint?" as opposed to?
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J_Boo wrote:I always used the Harbor Freight spray guns with some enamel. I did professional jobs and never had any trouble. Could paint an entire truck with about 2 gallons. Which if you buy cheap paint, that would run abut 300-400 dollars.

thanks J_Boo..where did you get two gallons at that price if you dont mind me askin'?
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It depends, for simple Jobs that You just want something to last and not as much care about show quality there is a site called TCP Global. You can purchase kits and such off their it saves considerably. You can do a vehicle for 250-400 depending on the types and colors you use using their paint. As opposed to like 600-800 using dupont paint. I get my Dupont by a small paint shop in town.
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J_Boo wrote:It depends, for simple Jobs that You just want something to last and not as much care about show quality there is a site called TCP Global. You can purchase kits and such off their it saves considerably. You can do a vehicle for 250-400 depending on the types and colors you use using their paint. As opposed to like 600-800 using dupont paint. I get my Dupont by a small paint shop in town.

Yes I have been perusing the online paint supply companies and they are very expensive...on the other hand, I have watched some surprisingly good Youtube vids on Rustoleum paint jobs which are quite impressive...I dont think you can beat it for 50.00! :?
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Effie_70 wrote:please forgive my total ignorance but "single stage paint?" as opposed to?
An HVLP system wastes less paint so ya don't need to buy as much... saves money on material but the equipment is relatively expensive. A siphon cup wastes ALOT of paint due to .. you guessed it.. the higher pressure required to convey the material.

Single stage paint.. the gloss chemically formulated in the paint.. spray it and it will catalyze (color, reducer, & hardener). With 2K (aka basecoat/clear coat or BC/CC and also catalyzed/hardened) the finish (gloss/satin/flat) is provided by the clear coat. Single stage is easier to shoot but is not as durable. .. scratch it and it damages the color... worse yet if it is deep then yer down to the primer or metal. The advantage with BC/CC is a mild scratch will usually only damage the clear coat. A deeper scratch will penetrate the clear and hopefully only part of the color... and clears are less expensive than color, typically.

Some sources for your consideration:
TCP Global Autobody Paintguns, Primers, Paints & Supplies
Autobody Toolmart- Tools, Dent Repair, and Paint Supplies

.... Summit offers their own branded paint. It's worth consideration too.
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Thanks HIO! I will look into this more closely...I wish I had a few grand around to have it done professionally...sheesh. :roll:
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I've never painted or even used a spray gun until I started my project. I bought one of the HF $15 guns (gravity feed) to start with and have coated all my frame and suspension parts with 2 coats of POR-15 and 2 coats of Eastwood High Gloss Chassis Black. I'll bet I've sprayed 3 gallons of POR-15 and 2 gallons of chassis black. Ruined the first gun and bought another. Kinda got the hang of it now. I've put 3 coats of gray primer/surfacer on my cab and down to the final sanding with 400 grit sandpaper before applying white sealer and prepping for color. First two coats were sprayed with the HF gun but then I bought a DeVilbiss 2 gun set (primer and topcoat guns) http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DVR-802343/ . Figure if I was going to try to paint my truck myself, I better invest in some quality equipment. The difference between the HF gun and the DeVilbiss was NO comparison. The Devilbiss sprayed much easier and more uniform and just felt better. Expensive, a little, but the color I'm getting is a base coat/clear coat application and runs about $290/gallon. At that price, I can't afford to waste anything. No disrespect intended J-boo. I'd recommend the HF guns to anybody. Great buy for the money. Get the optional disposal cups with it, especially if you're spraying POR-15.
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Sargentrs,

What are you using for an air compressor?

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I use a Harbor Freight special http://www.harborfreight.com/25-horsepo ... 67847.html with an inline drier/filter. Got it for $139 on sale about 2+ years ago. First one fried in about 2 months but took it back and they replaced it no questions asked. This one has lasted. Seems to provide adequate cfm and pressure for what I've been spraying. I also have a 220v direct drive 5hp/60gal I use for heavier work. Had it given to me because the tank was rusted out. Got a tank off of craigslist for $100 :D
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DeVilbis "Finishline" series are a good inexpensive guns. As mentioned, TCP Global is a great source for all kinds of supplies.
As for paint, Summit Racing has Wimbeldon white http://m.summitracing.com/parts/sum-csumup322 and only $111 for the combo which has paint, activator, and reducer.
Boxwood green, different story. You'd have to get that mixed.
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If you looking to go the cheap way go with the rustoleum, I know alot of people say dont do it and a lot say do it, i say it's about your wallet and you WIFE if you got one...lmao... I just shot mine this weekend and it turned out great (3) coats with a harbor freight HVLP $14.00 gun and a gallon of the rustoleum and a can of hardner i got from the tractor supply it was fun even my daughter painted a fender.I have never painted with a gun before it was easy and a blast. Word of advise get the hardner it will dry faster.
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OP wants to paint boxwood green and wimbeldon white....
Didn't know you could get custom colors in rustoleum.... :hmm:
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