welding a steering column tube
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welding a steering column tube
the tube being a thing piece of metal woudl you mig weld it or tig weld it?
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Re: welding a steering column tube
Either/Or. Gas welding is also an option. Whatever is available, assuming the weld will be ground and filed anyway.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
we dont want it to burn through. and we thought a mig may burn through the thin outer tube. i am against just brazing it.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
With good gas welding skills the job should be easy enough.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
You can make a "brazed" connection look just as good as a "welded" connection.fordman wrote:brazing doesnt look professional.

I've done it hundreds of times.

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Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???
That's not an oil leak
That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! 
Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???
That's not an oil leak


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Re: welding a steering column tube
the other problem with brazing is that it never holds in the places with this kind of stress. this needs a good weld that will hold real stress. and i would like to hide the repair as much as possible. brazing has never been very hideable for me. paint just doesnt stick to it very well. for very long. not like it would steel. brazing is out and i will probably never ever braze anything ever in my life time again.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
I've used brazing to repair hundreds of hydraulic lines that held 2500-3500PSI. That's a LOT more than would ever be encountered by a steering column. No problem with paint (painted the machine later), and no problem with longevity (3000 hours or more).
A quick MIG or TIG weld is quicker and easier, but IMHO, not any better.
A quick MIG or TIG weld is quicker and easier, but IMHO, not any better.
Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools talk because they have to say something.--Plato
Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???
That's not an oil leak
That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! 
Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???
That's not an oil leak


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Re: welding a steering column tube
believe me it wil be 100% better. it is a closed subject and will not f ing happen so thsoe of you who say braze it. it will not fing happen.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
Then for arguments sake TIG weld it, and if thats not available MIG it. I can't see the column metal being much thinner then any other body metal.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
it is pretty thin and the area to be welded is very small in one place. thats why i was told it should probably be tigged. i can mig for anything. i know i can arc weld. but migging always burns through or doesnt stick for me. brass is too weak of a metal to nto get metal fatigue and break in half itself. i have had it happen too many times before.
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Re: welding a steering column tube
I would say mig it. But be sure you are actually running gas flux insted of a standard wire feed welder, it turns out much neater and stronger and you can usually turn your heat down really low and still be able to melt the wire for it to stick "depending on which machine you use".
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Re: welding a steering column tube
What area are you trying to weld fordman? Did it break a tab up top ?
I have welded up a bunch of holes on the 2 steering columns im re-doing. The P.O.'s had screwed a bunch of gauges in at one point in time. I had no problems with my 220V MIG.
.025 wire running 90/10 gas. Set it on the low side & make good quick welds. Dont let it puddle up or it will blow thru.
I also have to weld up a broken tab on the P/S 3 speed column. I havent done it yet simply because I have 2 auto columns tore apart on the bench now.
I have welded up a bunch of holes on the 2 steering columns im re-doing. The P.O.'s had screwed a bunch of gauges in at one point in time. I had no problems with my 220V MIG.
.025 wire running 90/10 gas. Set it on the low side & make good quick welds. Dont let it puddle up or it will blow thru.
I also have to weld up a broken tab on the P/S 3 speed column. I havent done it yet simply because I have 2 auto columns tore apart on the bench now.

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Re: welding a steering column tube
yea its the tabs the bolts for the collar hold it on with. very small area to weld. it is a 3 spd manaul column i am rebuilding.