wrong e-brake cables?????

Suspension, steering, brakes, wheels & tires

Moderator: FORDification

Post Reply
F-100Ranger
New Member
New Member
Posts: 155
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:07 pm
Location: Industry, Pennsylvania

wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by F-100Ranger »

My 68 F-100 LWB styleside truck didn't have functional ebrakes when I bought it, so now that I'm rebuilding it I've run into a problem.

The rear brake cables don't seem to be long enough. They reach the rear cross member and lock in with the retainers, but the gage area comes up short. I only have about 8 inches gage area when the manuals show the free cable reaching over 2 thirds the way to the equalizer lever. Also, the cable for the front that runs from the lever to the pedal is not fully housed as shown in the same diagrams.

Is there an ebrake setup that was used for a couple years that isn't in the diagrams, or Is it possible that the previous owner installed ebrake cables from a swb truck - therefore couldn't make it work?
67 Austin Healey 3000- resto - subframe rebuilt so far
68 F-100 LB w FE410-in progress frame-off resto
02 Sebring Convertible- for top-down relaxation
User avatar
Hawkrod
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 939
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:17 am
Location: Apple Valley, California
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by Hawkrod »

The illustrations you are looking at are notoriously generic. They were usually drawn before the new model was actually even built so the manuals could be published and distributed with new model introduction and then the same drawings were then used for subsequent years if the changes were not significant. In your case you have a longbed so there are a pair of extensions that go on the cables you have to allow them to reach the rest of the linkage. Hawkrod
39 Ford Dlx Cpe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 F250 4X4
86 SVO
76 F250 Crew Cab
67 F250 Ranger
http://www.supermotors.org/registry/veh ... 9&detail=1
User avatar
FORDification
Site & Forum Admin
Site & Forum Admin
Posts: 8050
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:52 am
Location: Kansas, Wellsville
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by FORDification »

Hawkrod wrote:... In your case you have a longbed so there are a pair of extensions that go on the cables you have to allow them to reach the rest of the linkage. Hawkrod
:yt: The SWB and LWB trucks actually used the same rear cables, so the LWB trucks used extensions to compensate for the difference in length.

Since a picture's worth a thousand words:

Image
____| \__
-O-----O- Keith
'67 F-100 2WD SWB ~ '69 F-100 4WD SWB w/7" chop ~ 1975 F-250 Ranger XLT Supercab Camper Special
ImageImageImage
My '67 restoration video
-> Posting and you! <-a MUST watch for all!!
fordman
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 22329
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Kansas, Ottawa
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by fordman »

heres a set for you if you need it. they are exernutts. buti have them to sell for him.
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 11&t=37583
User avatar
sideoilerfe
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 804
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:04 pm
Location: Oregon, Portland

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by sideoilerfe »

FORDification wrote:
Image
It must be an F100 thing because I've never seen those extensions before on any of my F250s.
Side oiler FE, see if you can catch me!!!

1970 F250 4x4 390/4spd
1968 F250 4X2 360/C6/No Rust!
User avatar
Hawkrod
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 939
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:17 am
Location: Apple Valley, California
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by Hawkrod »

F250's did not come in a short wheel base version and the brake cables are model specific so there was no need to make short one for the F250. That being said, longer than standard wheelbase models can use extenders as well (like Crew Cabs, later Super Cabs and even chassis cabs). Hawkrod
39 Ford Dlx Cpe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 F250 4X4
86 SVO
76 F250 Crew Cab
67 F250 Ranger
http://www.supermotors.org/registry/veh ... 9&detail=1
User avatar
sideoilerfe
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 804
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:04 pm
Location: Oregon, Portland

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by sideoilerfe »

Hawkrod wrote:F250's did not come in a short wheel base version and the brake cables are model specific so there was no need to make short one for the F250. That being said, longer than standard wheelbase models can use extenders as well (like Crew Cabs, later Super Cabs and even chassis cabs). Hawkrod
I know the F250's were the long wheel base but why the extensions on the F100 long beds? Why not use the longer cables from the f250 models? Unless the cables themselves are different somehow.
Side oiler FE, see if you can catch me!!!

1970 F250 4x4 390/4spd
1968 F250 4X2 360/C6/No Rust!
User avatar
Hawkrod
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 939
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:17 am
Location: Apple Valley, California
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by Hawkrod »

sideoilerfe wrote:
Hawkrod wrote:F250's did not come in a short wheel base version and the brake cables are model specific so there was no need to make short one for the F250. That being said, longer than standard wheelbase models can use extenders as well (like Crew Cabs, later Super Cabs and even chassis cabs). Hawkrod
I know the F250's were the long wheel base but why the extensions on the F100 long beds? Why not use the longer cables from the f250 models? Unless the cables themselves are different somehow.
Yes, F100 and F250 cables are physically different. This is due to the size and shape of the rear brakes. Even an F250 can be different from another F250 as there are actually more than one length based on brake size (an F250 with 2 inch wide brakes use a different length cable than 2 1/2 wide brakes)! Hawkrod
39 Ford Dlx Cpe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 F250 4X4
86 SVO
76 F250 Crew Cab
67 F250 Ranger
http://www.supermotors.org/registry/veh ... 9&detail=1
User avatar
sideoilerfe
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 804
Joined: Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:04 pm
Location: Oregon, Portland

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by sideoilerfe »

Cool. I wasn't aware of the difference as I've only had F250's.
Side oiler FE, see if you can catch me!!!

1970 F250 4x4 390/4spd
1968 F250 4X2 360/C6/No Rust!
fordman
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 22329
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Kansas, Ottawa
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by fordman »

thats wierd to have differet lenght cables for different width brakes. unless the width made the lenght different. moving the hook up point on the shoes.
User avatar
Hawkrod
Blue Oval Fanatic
Blue Oval Fanatic
Posts: 939
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:17 am
Location: Apple Valley, California
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by Hawkrod »

fordman wrote:thats wierd to have differet lenght cables for different width brakes. unless the width made the lenght different. moving the hook up point on the shoes.
I have never compared them side by side but I would be willing to bet it is how the cable have to enter the backing plate. The wider rear brake shoes require a more deeply pressed backing plate (the front of the drum can't get closer to the wheel so the brakes wrap around the axle more to get the extra width) and so the cable enters differently. I am not positive on this point but it is that way on many other vehicles. Hawkrod
39 Ford Dlx Cpe
59 Tbird 430
60 Lincoln
(2)62 Tbirds
(3)68 Cougar XR7-G's
69 Cougar 428CJ 4 speed
77 1/2 F250 4X4
86 SVO
76 F250 Crew Cab
67 F250 Ranger
http://www.supermotors.org/registry/veh ... 9&detail=1
fordman
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 22329
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Kansas, Ottawa
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by fordman »

that could be why. it is bettter than my theory. for why.
F-100Ranger
New Member
New Member
Posts: 155
Joined: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:07 pm
Location: Industry, Pennsylvania

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by F-100Ranger »

I can see now that the extensions are what's missing. Actually, there was one extension and I couldn't make sense of just one. So now I need to find another extension and coupler.

But what about the single cable that runs from the lever forward? Is that one completely housed? mine is half housing and half bare cable
67 Austin Healey 3000- resto - subframe rebuilt so far
68 F-100 LB w FE410-in progress frame-off resto
02 Sebring Convertible- for top-down relaxation
fordman
100% FORDified!
100% FORDified!
Posts: 22329
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Kansas, Ottawa
Contact:

Re: wrong e-brake cables?????

Post by fordman »

yes thats how the front ones look. half exposed cable and hal sheathed.
Post Reply