Am I missing parts?

Alfred Lord Tenniscourt · Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:31 pm

My manual steering box is broken. The plate on the side opposite the frame has cracked.
The real question though is:
Should there be some kind of bushing or bearing between the frame rail and the pitman arm?
There is one shown on the diagram of the Ross 375, but it is unclear weather it belongs between the frame rail and pitman arm, or if it goes between the steering box and frame rail.
By the way, this is a 67 highboy with manual steering...
Thanks

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:19 pm

try this. i am not sur on 4x4's but i would say there is a bracket between the frame rail and the mounting for th steering box on 2wd. so why wouldnt there be the same spacer on a 4wd.

http://www.fordification.com/schematics-d.htm

Alfred Lord Tenniscourt · Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:02 pm

Thanks for the input, but I am not really that worried about what is between the frame and the steering box. I think there may be something missing between the pitman arm and the frame. My concern is that with no bushing or bearing between the pitman arm and the frame, there is the potential for a lot of axial loading on the steering box.

kaptnkaos · Post by **kaptnkaos** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:12 pm

I just removed the standard sterring box off my '68 CS, the box mounted directlty to the frame.
No spacer or plate... just 3 bolts
Hope that helps...

KaptnKA

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fordman · Post by **fordman** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:17 pm

the pitman arm goes on the bottom of the steering gaer box. it should not hook to the frame at all. the steering gear box bolts to the frame though. ami misunderstanding you?

averagef250 · Post by **averagef250** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:43 pm

I think you guys all have 2wd on the brain. 4x4's are completely different.

The highboy steering box has a vertical pitman arm and a horizontal sector.

What I'm not following at all is you're account of how there is a loose plate somewhere. The setup is real system if it's factory.

There is no bushing in the frame rail. The sector shaft passes through the frame and the pitman is attached on the outside.

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:48 pm

the pics i have seen the steering box was bolted to the inside or outside of the frame. your saying the steering box now goes throught the frame.

Post by **FORDification** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:40 am

fordman wrote:the pics i have seen the steering box was bolted to the inside or outside of the frame. your saying the steering box now goes throught the frame.

Yes, on the F250-F350 4WDs it does:

I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in the frame hole...it just passes straight through.

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:46 am

ok i havent seen that kind before.

Alfred Lord Tenniscourt · Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:47 am

Yes! That is exactly what I have got! The broken plate is actually on the oposite side of the steering box. The problem is that the sector has taken a large axial load at some point and has broken the plate that holds it in place on the passenger side of the steering box (labeled 3580 in the exploded view diagram):
http://www.fordification.com/images/sch ... ng-box.jpg
This allows the sector to slop left and right and is probably really dangerous. I was going to pull the thing apart and weld plate 3580 back together, but I was afraid it would just break again if it is not assembled right and be harder to fix next time.
It still seems strange to me that that plate is the only thing to absorb axial loading on the sector shaft (unless there is something I am missing in the diagram). That is why I thought there might be a missing piece somewhere...
Thanks for taking so much time with this already, I really apreciate it.

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:43 pm

ok that cap is a cap. it is only purpose is to hol everything together. for the adjustment of the gears to mesh inside the box. the best advise i could give you is to rebuild the box. making sure that the inside of the box had no real play. so that cap couldn't get broke again.

quantumleap · Post by **quantumleap** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:44 pm

how involved is it to rebuild a 2wd manual gear box?

fordman · Post by **fordman** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:47 pm

dablack has done it., he said soemthing about making sure the little balls didnt fall out when you took the box apart.

quantumleap · Post by **quantumleap** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:00 pm

new box from napa at $250?

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