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so i want to lift my front end up, i'm thinking some custom shackles. would i install them on the rear of the springs or the front of the spring on the eyes.?
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Kingpin angles are critical on a front axle. Shackle lifts shoot kingpin angles to heck. You can cut the front crossmember out, put a big hunk of square tube in there and lengthen your shackles to match.

Lift springs add to the value of your truck. To say hacking the frame and shackles doesn't is putting it very nicely.
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:yt: To use stock front leaves, you need to drop the front mounts and lengthen the rear shackles to match. Not quite like rear springs. Also, no matter what anyone says, NEVER USE LIFT BLOCKS ON THE FRONT!!!! :nono: Only extreme ghetto rednecks with a death wish do this. :wink:
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i would never use lift blocks. i already have lift shackles in the rear. i was thinking of making some custom shackles and putting them in the front to lower the front of the front leafs.
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I built shackles for mine to add an inch. There is bad about doing that. If you are worried about angles then find the angle before the lift and after it is done. Buy some steel shims to put it back.

How much you wanna lift it? If you want more then get the springs re-arched.
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heep70 wrote:I built shackles for mine to add an inch. There is bad about doing that. If you are worried about angles then find the angle before the lift and after it is done. Buy some steel shims to put it back.

How much you wanna lift it? If you want more then get the springs re-arched.
i agree.re-arching the springs is less work overall.when i had the f250 4x4 front re-arched so it would get back to the stock height, the shop would only warranty it if i added another leaf.you would not think it had so much of an effect on the driving/steering but it was like a new front end after.
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i want to lift the front end enough to clear 35x12.5's without rubbing. and to level it out with my rear end.
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Last time I bought 4" highboy springs new they were around $200. You'll never have to worry about kingpin angles or people making fun of your hacked truck. Re-arched springs with an extra leaf will clear 35"s, but it isn't tall enough to keep them from hitting over rough stuff and articulation.
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Im putting a 12" lift on my 67'... I have re-arched springs and front drop bracket and rear hanger and shackles (all custom). I had a donor 85' F350 so used the measurements from that. I like the 3" wide springs vrs the 67' narrower springs, and also they say the longer leafs offer a better ride... Also the 85' has a shackle on the front of the leaf (bad set up for bumps in the road) so changed that to the shackle in the back. I would just get new springs and then you probably need a new pitman arm also for the steering for something like 6" lift I think even for a 4". I would go 6" to clear 35" tires then no worries on rubbing..
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ICEMAN6166 wrote:
heep70 wrote:I built shackles for mine to add an inch. There is bad about doing that. If you are worried about angles then find the angle before the lift and after it is done. Buy some steel shims to put it back.

How much you wanna lift it? If you want more then get the springs re-arched.
i agree.re-arching the springs is less work overall.when i had the f250 4x4 front re-arched so it would get back to the stock height, the shop would only warranty it if i added another leaf.you would not think it had so much of an effect on the driving/steering but it was like a new front end after.
When I bought my last set of new leaf packs the fronts came with the extra leaf. Rides great. Won't clear 35s though. Re-arching the stock springs to clear 35s will effect spring length. Might wanna consider that. That will effect your ride alot by not allowing the shackle to be at the right angle. The shackles on my truck are pretty much striaght up and down with stock leaf packs.
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The shackles can be angled towards the spring alot more than straight up and down with no ill effects.

ZAKT, The only common lift springs offered for a highboy are 4". 4" springs will accomodate even bigger tires than 35"s. Your '67 has 3" wide front springs already. If you take the '85 F-350 rear springs and stack a few more leafs in the pack with them they will bolt in place of stock highboy front springs and give about a 6" lift. They are very soft if you don't add extra leafs.
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my 67' is a 2wd and soon to be the 4wd so no front springs (in the works) and of course want the rear to match with the 3" and the 85' springs are longer so should ride alittle better than the stock springs of the 67'. Need bigger than a 6" for the front differential to clear the 2wd crossmember so I figure 12" aught to do it :D not sure yet on keeping the 2wd crossmember actually have a 78' 4x4 crossmember to put into it if the 2wd doesnt work out with the new steering box in the front and all that. Rear with 12" 85' springs below:

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I see what you're doing now. I didn't realize you were starting with a 2wd.
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like the long bed and from what I know and what is said they didnt come out till 70's with the 4x4 longbed crewcab
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I don't think they came out until the 80's bodystyle.
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