decrease in value when shortening lwb?
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decrease in value when shortening lwb?
do you guys think that if i were to have my 69 f100's frame shortened, would i lose or gain truck value? i know it probably depends on who's buying, but say you were selling it-would you list it for more?
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re: decrease in value when shortening lwb?
Ryan,
don't take this wrong, but I would never buy a truck that had the frame shortened. Its not a reflection on you or any one elses abilities, its just that there are so many choices of bumps, at least here in the northwest, why would I take a chance on one with major modifications. I can screw up my own truck very well without anyone elses help.
For what its worth, thats my opinion.
don't take this wrong, but I would never buy a truck that had the frame shortened. Its not a reflection on you or any one elses abilities, its just that there are so many choices of bumps, at least here in the northwest, why would I take a chance on one with major modifications. I can screw up my own truck very well without anyone elses help.

For what its worth, thats my opinion.
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YAY!!!!!!!! Im not crazy about swb. I like my stuff big and long!!!1971ford wrote:good point.
it shall stay long

Then there is way to many swb's
http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... d%20F-100/
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
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1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
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1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
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1971fordcustom wrote:YAY!!!!!!!! Im not crazy about swb. I like my stuff big and long!!!1971ford wrote:good point.
it shall stay long![]()
Then there is way to many swb's
AMEN! Long N Strong and Bound ta get tha friction on!
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Sabbaticus wrote:1971fordcustom wrote:YAY!!!!!!!! Im not crazy about swb. I like my stuff big and long!!!1971ford wrote:good point.
it shall stay long![]()
Then there is way to many swb's
AMEN! Long N Strong and Bound ta get tha friction on!
LOL


ps where ya get them bedrails at!
http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... d%20F-100/
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
1966 Ford Galaxie!
1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
1940 Ford Truck
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
1966 Ford Galaxie!
1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
1940 Ford Truck
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Mine's been cut since the 80's
Not sure anyone would even know unless they were lookin
and knew where and what to look for
Its a pretty easy job to cut the frame for a welder, I probably wouldnt do it if you didnt have experience though
Not just because of the welding, but it has to be square and exactly right or the truck....wont
Not sure anyone would even know unless they were lookin

Its a pretty easy job to cut the frame for a welder, I probably wouldnt do it if you didnt have experience though
Not just because of the welding, but it has to be square and exactly right or the truck....wont
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re: decrease in value when shortening lwb?
I would never buy one that's had its frame cut and welded.
I know that evryone is entitled to their own opinion, and people are free to drive whatever makes them happy. But I could never understand the point of a SWB truck to begin with. A LWB is a lot more useful than a SWB and costs the same to drive. Why create a truck that has a smaller (volume) capacity?
I would only buy a SWB truck if I was going to build it up for drag racing. That makes sense.
I know that evryone is entitled to their own opinion, and people are free to drive whatever makes them happy. But I could never understand the point of a SWB truck to begin with. A LWB is a lot more useful than a SWB and costs the same to drive. Why create a truck that has a smaller (volume) capacity?
I would only buy a SWB truck if I was going to build it up for drag racing. That makes sense.
Tony
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Remember, most every dump body, oil delivery truck, and extended roll back, unless bought new, was cut and welded. Never mind every single limo out there.
I wouldnt recommend a guy with his 120V Mig do it in his backyard, but its as safe as new if done right
I figure if I was doing 3-4 oil delivery trucks and a tri-axle tractor a year, I could handle a little half ton
BTW, mine would pull every 10 wheeler that ever gelled in Massachusetts home to our garage, mud bogged, tractor pulled, and drag raced with a 125 shot of nitrous.....I'd say it's strong enough LOL
As far as long versus short bed, a long bed is sure handy if you have junk in the back, but if you arent carrying anything why bother?
Even my 2008 SD F250 is a short bed, I like the turning radius and parking better
ON EDIT --- Although I know very well that it can be safe, I too agree that it would reduce value if restored. If a resto / hot rod / lifted 4x4 it really depends on condition and how well it was executed. I did mine for my own use and would never look back, but if I were going for a nice resto, I'd buy a SB truck for investment, not make one
I wouldnt recommend a guy with his 120V Mig do it in his backyard, but its as safe as new if done right
I figure if I was doing 3-4 oil delivery trucks and a tri-axle tractor a year, I could handle a little half ton

BTW, mine would pull every 10 wheeler that ever gelled in Massachusetts home to our garage, mud bogged, tractor pulled, and drag raced with a 125 shot of nitrous.....I'd say it's strong enough LOL
As far as long versus short bed, a long bed is sure handy if you have junk in the back, but if you arent carrying anything why bother?
Even my 2008 SD F250 is a short bed, I like the turning radius and parking better
ON EDIT --- Although I know very well that it can be safe, I too agree that it would reduce value if restored. If a resto / hot rod / lifted 4x4 it really depends on condition and how well it was executed. I did mine for my own use and would never look back, but if I were going for a nice resto, I'd buy a SB truck for investment, not make one
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71 F-100 SB 4x4, 461 FE, Edelbrock Pro-flo 4, 4 speed, 4 inch softride lift, all poly bushings, integral PS, most mods installed since the 80's
70 Mustang Sportsroof 489 FE, EFI, TKO-600 5 speed, 4.11s
Engine building by-appointment only--30+ years, specializing in strong street pump gas FEs
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Don't know............Dad bought them somewhere. I could have sworn I saw them in an LMC or summit catalog before though.1971fordcustom wrote:Sabbaticus wrote:1971fordcustom wrote: YAY!!!!!!!! Im not crazy about swb. I like my stuff big and long!!!![]()
Then there is way to many swb's
AMEN! Long N Strong and Bound ta get tha friction on!
LOL![]()
Now I can see if it was going to be a hotrod but thes old trucks are to cool as they are to chop them up.
ps where ya get them bedrails at!
Dalton Sexton
1972 LWB 4 in floor T-18 tranny. w 360ci engine. tires 31 x 10.5 r15. F250 suspension w rear helper springs. Electronic ignition from 78 ford t-bird 400 cid. Plug wires to fit 1980 F150 460ci.
1972 LWB 4 in floor T-18 tranny. w 360ci engine. tires 31 x 10.5 r15. F250 suspension w rear helper springs. Electronic ignition from 78 ford t-bird 400 cid. Plug wires to fit 1980 F150 460ci.
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This is what my truck is http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... 1ad-03.jpgSabbaticus wrote:Don't know............Dad bought them somewhere. I could have sworn I saw them in an LMC or summit catalog before though.1971fordcustom wrote:Sabbaticus wrote:
AMEN! Long N Strong and Bound ta get tha friction on!
LOL![]()
Now I can see if it was going to be a hotrod but thes old trucks are to cool as they are to chop them up.
ps where ya get them bedrails at!
Now im in a quest trying to find the bedrails!
http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... d%20F-100/
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
1966 Ford Galaxie!
1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
1940 Ford Truck
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
1966 Ford Galaxie!
1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
1940 Ford Truck
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1971fordcustom wrote:This is what my truck is http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... 1ad-03.jpgSabbaticus wrote:Don't know............Dad bought them somewhere. I could have sworn I saw them in an LMC or summit catalog before though.1971fordcustom wrote:
LOL![]()
Now I can see if it was going to be a hotrod but thes old trucks are to cool as they are to chop them up.
ps where ya get them bedrails at!
Now im in a quest trying to find the bedrails!
Here are the bed rails in the photo you provided me.
http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/pdf/67-79Truck.pdf
go to page 96 of the catalog. They are not the same as mine, but mine are aftermarket chrome. I wish I could remember where I saw my exact one. Good luck!
Dalton Sexton
1972 LWB 4 in floor T-18 tranny. w 360ci engine. tires 31 x 10.5 r15. F250 suspension w rear helper springs. Electronic ignition from 78 ford t-bird 400 cid. Plug wires to fit 1980 F150 460ci.
1972 LWB 4 in floor T-18 tranny. w 360ci engine. tires 31 x 10.5 r15. F250 suspension w rear helper springs. Electronic ignition from 78 ford t-bird 400 cid. Plug wires to fit 1980 F150 460ci.
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I wish I can open that!!! I have really slow net and it said it will take 2 houers to downloadSabbaticus wrote:1971fordcustom wrote:This is what my truck is http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... 1ad-03.jpgSabbaticus wrote: Don't know............Dad bought them somewhere. I could have sworn I saw them in an LMC or summit catalog before though.
Now im in a quest trying to find the bedrails!
Here are the bed rails in the photo you provided me.
http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/pdf/67-79Truck.pdf
go to page 96 of the catalog. They are not the same as mine, but mine are aftermarket chrome. I wish I could remember where I saw my exact one. Good luck!

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb31 ... d%20F-100/
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
1966 Ford Galaxie!
1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
1940 Ford Truck
1971 F-100 Explorer Special custom
1971 F-350 Flatbed
1966 Ford Galaxie!
1966 Ford F-250 4x4
1960 Ford F-750 FireTruck
1960 Gmc 6000 FireTruck
1962 IH R-185 Firetruck
1959 Ford Custom 300
1940 Ford Truck
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re: decrease in value when shortening lwb?
go to http://www.dennis-carpenter.com and request a catalog if they will send it. I just noticed that the part is listed for a 73 pick up. You can get it for a 6 or 8 foot bed. Good luck!
Dalton Sexton
1972 LWB 4 in floor T-18 tranny. w 360ci engine. tires 31 x 10.5 r15. F250 suspension w rear helper springs. Electronic ignition from 78 ford t-bird 400 cid. Plug wires to fit 1980 F150 460ci.
1972 LWB 4 in floor T-18 tranny. w 360ci engine. tires 31 x 10.5 r15. F250 suspension w rear helper springs. Electronic ignition from 78 ford t-bird 400 cid. Plug wires to fit 1980 F150 460ci.