Extra Fuel Tank

[Dragon]

Did I say they =were all 360 or this and that Dual tanks in High Country on Camper specials and Sport Customs arrived at the dealer preinstalled. My Sport custom was a 360 when bought with a C6 AC PS and PB 3.78s Posi Dana 60. You are right not all are the exact same. It is now a 390 or 428 with C1ae heads C5AE intake and car exhaust manifolds.

Now it is as above and in my signature because someone changed it along the way but it did come to Albuquerque in 1971 with dualtanks.

I also said 17 was for one of the minus the box models.

[sideoilerfe]

Did I say they =were all 360 or this and that

I said "For Example:..."

Dual tanks in High Country on Camper specials and Sport Customs arrived at the dealer preinstalled.

But they were not standard.

My Sport custom was a 360 when bought with a C6 AC PS and PB 3.78s Posi Dana 60.

I've never seen 3.78 gears. 3.73 but not 3.78.

It is now a 390 or 428 with C1ae heads C5AE intake and car exhaust manifolds.

Well, 390 OR 428?

I also said 17 was for one of the minus the box models.

I stand corrected.

[Dragon]

3.73 is right I mistyped and I don't care to find out by spending time under the hood measuring bore or stroke, but when I changed my timing chain it had a factory 428 CJ chain so maybe the block is and maybe it is not a 428 but if not it is a 390 it runs stronger than a 4 barrel 360 does. And runs no slower that any 390 I ever saw new.

But anyway if the dealer gets those models all with 2nd tanks and the tags list them as standard then brochure or not I would call that standard for all intents and purposes.

[BigEd]

3.73 is right I mistyped and I don't care to find out by spending time under the hood measuring bore or stroke, but when I changed my timing chain it had a factory 428 CJ chain so maybe the block is and maybe it is not a 428 but if not it is a 390 it runs stronger than a 4 barrel 360 does. And runs no slower that any 390 I ever saw new.

But anyway if the dealer gets those models all with 2nd tanks and the tags list them as standard then brochure or not I would call that standard for all intents and purposes.

Oh,gosh, I just have to ask, what is a 428 CJ timing chain? Since a 428 timing chain is the same as a 352 or 360 or 390 or 427 does that mean they are all 428's? Sorry but you have to be joking to write something like that. You say you worked for Ford and yet you write something absurd like this? I am by no means a rocket scientist but I am fully aware that there was no such thing as a 428 CJ specific timing chain and if I know that, how come you don't when you are such an expert? I really have to question the validity of any comments you make when you say things that are so obviously untrue. You can easily verify that all 1958-1969 cars and trucks with FE engines with cams in the block used a B8A-6268-A timing chain (starting in 1970 the engines were built using a D0AZ-6268-A which also became the replacement for all 58-69 engines as well). Whether it was a lowly 332 in a 58 Ford 300, a 427 in a 64 Galaxie lightweight, or a 69 Mach I with a Cobra Jet, they all used the same timing chain. So where are we now? You say one thing is a fact and then you say another thing that we absolutely know is not true. Tell us, what are we to believe? Ed

[Bama Boy]

You know guys, it really does not matter anyways. I think we can say that as a general rule, you will find the second tanks on the more specialized models and most likely not on an inline 24o base model. Although general rules are not LAW, they are pretty good to go by. My 2 cents.

Can you buy the midship tanks reproduced anywhere?

Leo

[Dragon]

I am looking at 93 Ranger plastic tanks and they are close in the book but until I get one I won't know.

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/fb/full.aspx?Page=93 tank here

[Dragon]

Oh,gosh, I just have to ask, what is a 428 CJ timing chain? Since a 428 timing chain is the same as a 352 or 360 or 390 or 427 does that mean they are all 428's?

Really well a 68 428CJ timing chain had a flaw and was produced in Canada for the racing only models. It was a roller chain with a indent on the back for the Ford Logo but no Logo was cast in. Rare race part and never needed for production. So while you are putting me down just think How little you must know to be so knowledgeable in all things Ford. On the Vehicles I worked on and the racers I analyze and research every single part.

By the way all the vehicles you say used the same chain well my 67 390 Super Stock Factory racer did not use the standard chain but it was not a roller either. Now on stock everyday trucks and cars yes you can make so many blankets statements and they will be true.

Case in point a Ford High Country truck is the same in Colorado and Alaska, Block heaters and 351s only when ordered as High Country Kits oh and the under frame support for snow blade attachments. If you did not work in Alaska or Colorado during the High Country years you would never know they had them unless you had the literature from the dealers in those areas.

I don't doubt your knowledge I ask that you read carefully before you knock my knowledge.

[BigEd]

Now I really can't trust what you say. I am holding the 1966 and 1969 Ford racing catalogs as I type. Do you know what they sold for race cars? Yup, same timing set they used on everything else B8A-6268-A. Ford did not use or offer any other chains. I do not believe there was any special chains as you say there were. You tell me to check the literature but do you provide any sources for what you are saying? Not a one. I have spent the last little while looking over many of your posts and I see a lot of "I am the expert, here is what is right" but when I read it I see a ton of incorrect answers and baseless facts with no supporting documentation just a lot of "I am right and you are wrong". You say you were there but if you were how could you get so much wrong? Before you answer I will get my boots on, it looks like I will need them. Ed

[Dragon]

I don't care I owned the vehicles and the parts you didn't. You can tell me I am wrong and do you have a 67 racer catalog that they did not make. or a 67 racer catalog oh darn they did not make that one either.

[XLT]

So...Will I have any issues to deal with, besides the line size, if I use a dedicated diesel tank as my extra fuel (gas) tank?

[Dragon]

No though some have really large fill pipes as diesel pumps in the older days (at least when I drove them in the 70s sometimes had larger nozzles to fill the tank than normal gas pumps.

[BobbyFord]

I'm currently in the process of installing a '70 Mustang (22 gal.) fuel tank under the bed, behind the axle. I'm doing mine differently than I have seen others installed. Mine will bolt in above the lower frame rail lip, instead of below. I've been working on the fuel tank support frame for a couple of days to get the clearance issues right. Square tubing with the tank mounting nuts welded into the inside of the tubing. I'll post some pics when I get it done.

[fordman]

my 71 F259 cs has drums all the way around a 360 c6 dana 60 Ls 3.73 with a aux tank as well as the in cab tank. i was reading the original owners manual the other day and it said the tanks available were the 18.5 the 19.5 and the 21 for the in cab tank. it also mentioned the gallons for the aux tank and other tanks available for cab and chassis as well as cowl model trucks. there was quite an assortment of tanks used on these trucks the model had alot to do with what i had. as well as the trim package had something to do with it. but i agree you cant say all trucks had this or that. it was a package and special orders could also be had. i forgot to say that this truck had a dso number of 53 kansa city. i have several old vin tags from trucks i parted and alot of them have dso's from kc. one of them has a dso of 56. i didnt look that up.

anyway i think the aux tanks are the best and easiest way to go if adding or removing the cab tank either way. the midship tanks are almost exactly the same up into themid 80's if you look at the close enough. i think the change came in 87. but dont quote me on that. and the change was the fuel pump send hole size.

[Dragon]

I loved the way the Mustangs mounted the tank with the entire seam as a mount. Made the frame a bit stronger.

[sideoilerfe]

But anyway if the dealer gets those models all with 2nd tanks and the tags list them as standard then brochure or not I would call that standard for all intents and purposes.

If it was standard then why did my 1970 F250 4x2 Sport Custom NOT have one? Because it was not standard, period. Just admit that you're wrong and we'll drop it.