FT vs FE differences, post them as you know them

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i pulled this distributor from a 330 md in a 79 uhaul. it has the same oil pump shaft as the fe's i have here and the dist is the same sized oil pump shaft hole on the bottom. it may have been changed you are right in thinking that. i will go out and remove the intake and get some pic to see if it was changed or not. pictures will tell. here are the pics of the one i pulled.

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i could have gotten the md and xd thing wrong i am goignt o go back out and take photos of it anyway. there are soem things i wanted to get pics of because of others asking about that stuff. i kno wuhaul did do soemthings different yet similar so that is another thing to consider. thats why i posted it was a uhaul truck.
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i did get the xd name wrong. the plate said tc and tt ford engines on it. i could have sworn it said 330 xd on it though. so what are the tc and tt engines? this is in a uhaul f350 about a 78 or 79.
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My '68 Ford/Bluebird bus "Olde Skool" has a 330 FT MD with 92, 000 miles and runs like a top.
A couple of years ago I bought an FT engine for "just in case parts" from one of our members Mike. It's a 361 FT MD that came out of a '68 F600 U-Haul... I saw the truck it came out of.
Other than displacement, It is exactly like the 330FT in my bus.
When I first got my bus, I wanted to swap the 4v heads and Edlebrock intake w/a Carter performance carb from a healthy 390 onto the 330. i was told by Hawkrod (the same poster from the link you shared) that they were different internally so I couldn't swap the heads and intake.

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kaptnkaos wrote:My '68 Ford/Bluebird bus "Olde Skool" has a 330 FT MD with 92, 000 miles and runs like a top.
A couple of years ago I bought an FT engine for "just in case parts" from one of our members Mike. It's a 361 FT MD that came out of a '68 F600 U-Haul... I saw the truck it came out of.
Other than displacement, It is exactly like the 330FT in my bus.
When I first got my bus, I wanted to swap the 4v heads and Edlebrock intake w/a Carter performance carb from a healthy 390 onto the 330. i was told by Hawkrod (the same poster from the link you shared) that they were different internally so I couldn't swap the heads and intake.

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I am not sure what you are talking about but I am sure you misunderstood what was said. You can use FE heads and intake on an FT or the other way around as long as you also use the matching exhaust manifolds. The blocks are the same except for two very minor differences (distributor hole and oil drainback hole) that have nothing to do with the top end. You can't use an FE intake or exhaust manifolds with FT heads or the other way around. Also, the Uhaul 361 is a regular FT, it is only the Uhaul 330 that that is an oddball and is called a 330XD. Hawkrod
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Thanks for that clarification Hawkrod...

So, if that is the case... then, could I not also use an FE Dizzy, if I use the heads and intake from a 390 ???
I wanna beef up the 361FT, and swap out the 330 and gain a little more umph...

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the dist will depend on the size of the oil pump shaft and with the top of it where it goes into the intake. if your intake is larger than the dist you have they make a bushing you can put in the intake/block to let the fe dist fit and work in the ft engine. the oil pump shaft size on fe is 1/4 the ft is 5/16. from what i have learned.
i just need to get a pic of that plate on this truck. i know it said 330 xd the last time i looked at it. but yesterday the plate said tc and tt rebuild ford engines. maybe the tc and tt is a uhaul definition only.
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i found another difference in these two enignes. the valve covers. they use different gaskets. the tabs that come out the sides of a fe valve cover have larger tabs than the ft valve cover will let you use. they have smaller hole for the tabs. i just put an ft valve cover on my fe. i had to cut the tabs off to get the gasket into the ft valve cover.
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If you have the same kind of valve cover that I have on the 361.
The embossed lettering is just a little different than the FE style, but they look cool...
Do the holes themselves line up? I haven't even pulled them off to see if they would fit or not.

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yes the lettering is in a embossed box and the font is different. it is blocky. the holes line right up no problem with that.
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Yeah Fordman...

I thought they were cool, just 'cause they are a little different...
I was thinkin' of cleaning them up and having them powder coated...
I got as far as getting a new set of gaskets for them, but have had other priorities.

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i made a mistake. it isnt the ft valve cover is different where the gasket mounting tabs go. it is that the gasket is different. i had to cut the tabs off they wouldnt have worked for either valve cover. the gaskets i bought were the felpro cork gaskets. the tabs were over larged and werent cut correctly to fit the valve cover gasket tab hole. heres a pic of the valve cover and the script on it.
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heres a pic of that name plate. it says tc and refurbed tt ford engines on it.

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