Ok I finally finished installing the rag joint on my truck just to find power steering fluid pouring out of the spline seal where the rag joint hooks on to,
My Question,
Is the steering box hard to remove?
How does it come off,whats all involved?
can I rebuild myself or does it have to be sent out?
Is that just a seal where that spline goes into steering box?
thanks For the help in advance..
Greg
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Re: steering box removal,
pretty easy - 3 bolts that attach it to the frame... One end has the rag joint and on the other end leave the pitman arm on the pump and take off the nut that holds the pitman arm to the drag link.
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as far as rebuilding it i wouldnt try unless you know how to put it back together. replacing the seal should be easy enough though.
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Re: steering box removal,
Found these guys on the internet:
http://www.redheadsteeringgears.com/Inventory.html
Sounds like they know their stuff!
http://www.redheadsteeringgears.com/Inventory.html
Sounds like they know their stuff!
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Re: steering box removal,
So what do you do if you DO rip it? Is it replaceable? If so, where do you get them? I've done it many times on many different vehicles and applications and seems like I ALWAYS damage it in some way. I was going to buy a tie rod/pitman arm puller set so I wouldn't this next time around.forrestbump wrote:390bump wrote: Be careful to NOT tear or rip the rubber boot if you can. If you do, it's not the end of the world.
Randy
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
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1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
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Re: steering box removal,
Randy,
I personally use a ball joint separator just so that I don't tear the rubber cups. I only recommended the pickle fork because it's more readily available and less expensive.
I've never been able to find a source for the rubber boots only for tie rod ends, so when I'm bone yarding, I take my ball joint separator with me to take apart tie rod ends to get at the rubber boots. Usually the yards let me have them for free.
If you need any, I've got quite a few "left-overs".
I personally use a ball joint separator just so that I don't tear the rubber cups. I only recommended the pickle fork because it's more readily available and less expensive.
I've never been able to find a source for the rubber boots only for tie rod ends, so when I'm bone yarding, I take my ball joint separator with me to take apart tie rod ends to get at the rubber boots. Usually the yards let me have them for free.
If you need any, I've got quite a few "left-overs".
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Re: steering box removal,
UPDATE:
Randy,
I just found out that Energy Suspension sells Urethane dust / grease boots for tie rod ends.
Are you ready... $13.05 for two!! That's right, for ONLY $13.05 you too can have TWO (not one) Urethane boots!! Be the first one on your block to get em...
Randy,
I just found out that Energy Suspension sells Urethane dust / grease boots for tie rod ends.
Are you ready... $13.05 for two!! That's right, for ONLY $13.05 you too can have TWO (not one) Urethane boots!! Be the first one on your block to get em...
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Sky View Blue, Ranger XLT
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, A/C, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (again, of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Wimbledon White & Sky View Blue, Ranger (almost twin brothers!)
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do" - Henry Ford
Larry
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, A/C, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (again, of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Wimbledon White & Sky View Blue, Ranger (almost twin brothers!)
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do" - Henry Ford
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Re: steering box removal,
i was able to save a few the other day when i used a pickle fork to seperate the tierods from the spindle arm.
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Re: steering box removal,
So they just pop off and pop on? I'll be removing my front suspension, hopefully, this weekend. The drag link is the one I'm most concerned about. Need to pull it in good condition. Those boogers are expensive!
Randy
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
1987 F-150 XLT Lariat, 5.0/C6 auto.
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
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Re: steering box removal,
Yup!! If you're pulling them apart this weekend, spray PB Blaster on all your tie rod ends now so they'll be ready...sargentrs wrote:So they just pop off and pop on?
Sorry for thread stealing...
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Sky View Blue, Ranger XLT
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, A/C, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (again, of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Wimbledon White & Sky View Blue, Ranger (almost twin brothers!)
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do" - Henry Ford
Larry
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, A/C, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (again, of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Wimbledon White & Sky View Blue, Ranger (almost twin brothers!)
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do" - Henry Ford
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Re: steering box removal,
Thanks! And sorry for the hijack herzberg!
Randy
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
1987 F-150 XLT Lariat, 5.0/C6 auto.
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
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Re: steering box removal,
are you all nuts!!!!!!!!! no problem herem im learning all sorts of stuff from you all!!
thanks
whats PB stuff though?
like WD 40
thanks
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thanks
whats PB stuff though?
like WD 40
thanks
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Re: steering box removal,
I've been called that before when I talk about my truck. 
PB stuff is PB Blaster. It's in a yellow and black spray can with the WD40 at your local parts store. http://www.pbblaster.com Works better than WD 40 on heavily rusted bolts, IMHO.
PB stuff is PB Blaster. It's in a yellow and black spray can with the WD40 at your local parts store. http://www.pbblaster.com Works better than WD 40 on heavily rusted bolts, IMHO.Randy
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
1987 F-150 XLT Lariat, 5.0/C6 auto.
1970 F100 Sport Custom Limited LWB, 302cid, 3 on the tree. NO A/C, NO P/S, NO P/B. Currently in 1000 pcs while rebuilding. Project thread: http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=59995 Plan: 351w, C4, LSD, pwr front disc, p/s, a/c, bucket seats, new interior and paint.
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Re: steering box removal,
PB Blaster is what we all drink at the end of Long, Tough, Day... nothin' like popin' the top on a tall cold PB Blaster... hmmmm!
Sorry, couldn't help myself Greg.
... but seriously... PB Blaster is like WD40 on Viagra! It'll penetrate into a lot of things that WD40 just can't (well at least NOT as fast). Stuff works Great!
You can buy 12oz aerosol cans at places like NAPA.
Be sure you get it in the six pack, ice cold... there I go again...
Sorry, couldn't help myself Greg.
... but seriously... PB Blaster is like WD40 on Viagra! It'll penetrate into a lot of things that WD40 just can't (well at least NOT as fast). Stuff works Great!
You can buy 12oz aerosol cans at places like NAPA.
Be sure you get it in the six pack, ice cold... there I go again...
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Sky View Blue, Ranger XLT
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, A/C, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (again, of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Wimbledon White & Sky View Blue, Ranger (almost twin brothers!)
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do" - Henry Ford
Larry
1970, 2WD, F-250, C/S, A/C, Dual Tanks, 390 FE (again, of course), C6, Power Steering, Power Disc Brakes, Dana 60 3.73, Wimbledon White & Sky View Blue, Ranger (almost twin brothers!)
"One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do" - Henry Ford
Larry
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Re: steering box removal,
I think your right, its gotta be able to be done,
thanks for helping,
Greg
thanks for helping,
Greg