Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
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eggman918
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Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
OK call me crazy but I am happy with my old 44, but not with the drum brakes.is there a fix for me?
Steve
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
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The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
Sure.
Swap in a open knuckle disc brake frontend.
Swap in a open knuckle disc brake frontend.
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
5or 6 years ago, while I was searching for info on Disk Brake upgrades, I did run across info regarding Disk Brakes for the Closed Knuckle front ends, but I didn't need that info and passed by. The info you want is out there, but I don't remember where. Maybe somebody will chime in with some good info for you.
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
eggman918,
Your answer might be over here:
http://classicbroncos.com/
I believe some of those guys are actually running chebby brakes on the older D-44's.
Not sure how hard the conversion is though...
Your answer might be over here:
http://classicbroncos.com/
I believe some of those guys are actually running chebby brakes on the older D-44's.
Not sure how hard the conversion is though...
Jeff
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eggman918
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
I am a fan of the closed knuckle,they are very tough Timken bearings vs ball joints.also I have a spare so I want to keep it.
Steve
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
The 3500# closed knuckle 44's are pretty stout I don't blame you for wanting to keep it. Thier trunnions hold up better than balljoints when taken good care of, but if the drums don't do it for you I don't think the GM disc option is that hot. The GM single piston car, 1/2 or 3/4 ton (those are all the same caliper) discs are a bit anemic for a fullsize truck IMO.
If I were inclined to do it I would bore and redrill each knuckle (if possible) to accept the ford 5 bolt spindle pattern. The 80's and 90's twin piston calipers work very well, I would try to use those. All Ford 3/4 and 1 ton 4x4 rotors are the same from 76 through 97 except the change to 9/16" lugs in 1980.
For all that work you will still have a low pinion 44 up front though. I don't care much for 44 balljoints either, I saved my pocket change and bought a kingpin HP 60. With the economy in the crapper right now is the time to buy a 78-79 60 for a fair price.
If I were inclined to do it I would bore and redrill each knuckle (if possible) to accept the ford 5 bolt spindle pattern. The 80's and 90's twin piston calipers work very well, I would try to use those. All Ford 3/4 and 1 ton 4x4 rotors are the same from 76 through 97 except the change to 9/16" lugs in 1980.
For all that work you will still have a low pinion 44 up front though. I don't care much for 44 balljoints either, I saved my pocket change and bought a kingpin HP 60. With the economy in the crapper right now is the time to buy a 78-79 60 for a fair price.
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
sounds good I have a spare 44 i will get caliper assy. and see if it will work,I have the time worth a try. thanks Averagef250
Steve
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
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eggman918
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Re: Disc's on Dana 44 #3500 with closed knucles
I looked at my neighbors f-350 the calipers bolt up with 2 bolts,so I think that fabricating mounts to fit my 6 bolt circle to the calipers is my first plan .That way I can match rotor offset .Thanks again for the input .
Steve
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?
The"Filthy Beast"- '68 F-250 Crew Cab 131"W/B 4x4 4BT compounds hx30/Wh1c,5x.012" sac injectors/ZF 5/NP203-205 /3.54 44 trutrack front/60 trutrack rear on 33's. 2nd owner
"Beauty is only skin deep....Ugly is to the bone"
It is more important to understand what you don't know than what you do know,because then you can start to learn..???
"you must deal with the attaboys and the ass chewing s with your head up and looking them in the eyes" T.J.E. aka My Dad
There are only three types of people wolves, sheepdogs, and sheep. What are you?