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Block Boil?

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Does anyone know what process and chemicals are used when you have your block "boiled"?
I am assuming that they dip the block in some sort of solution and let it sit for awhile.
My 240-6 block is just fine, I just want to clean it out and get it ready to rebuild.
I live in a small town and have not been able to find a dependable machine shop. :? :hmm:

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i had this in my file - can't remember where I got it - ..... sounds nasty stuff

The chemical we use was Oakite Dynadet. check www.oakite.com

Oakite Dynadet
Heavy-duty, alkaline immersion tank cleaner for removal of greasy, oily
and carbonaceous soils.
PRIMARY APPLICATlON
Oakite Dynadet is a powdered, heavy-duty, alkaline immersion tank cleaner that attacks and quickly removes
tough greasy and oily deposits, carbon, drawing compounds and some paint films. It also removes light rust
and brightens stainless steel.
Oakite Dynadet is dustless and easy to handle The soap-free material provides long solution life, rinses freely
and completely for thorough cleaning
Primary applications of Oakite Dynadet include the following:
1. To readily clean heavily pigmented drawing compounds from steel stampings.
2. To clean shop oil and grease from steel parts prior to electrocleaning, zinc plating or vitreous
enameling.
3. To remove grease, oil and carbonaceous soils from automotive and locomotive parts, such as blocks
and cylinder heads in engine rebuilding shops.
4. To remove grease, oil and light carbon from valves, fittings and oil field equipment in the petroleum
industry.
CHEMICAL CHARACTERISTICS
chemical composition ..............................................alka line salts including caustic soda, solvents and
wetting agents
physical form .................................................. .........as received: yellow to light-brown powder
as used: amber solution
odor .................................................. .......................pine-like
bulk density .................................................. ...........1080 g/l at 20°C (9 lb./gal at 68°F)
flash point .................................................. ..............none
foaming tendency .................................................. ..moderate
recommended dilutent .............................................water
maximum solubility .................................................. 120 g/l at 82°C (16 oz/gal at 180°F)
behavior in hard water............................................. .sequesters
rinsability .................................................. ............... excellent
biodegradable..................................... ......................yes
phosphate free .................................................. ...... no
normal operating temperature range ..................... *60° to 82°C (140° to 180°F)
normal working concentrations.................................up to 120 g/l (16 oz/gal)
pH at working concentrations...................................o ver 13
effect of prolonged boiling ........................................not recommended
effect of working solutions on metals .............................. rate of metal loss from 24-hour immersion
in Oakite Dynadet, 40 g/l (5.3 oz/gal) at
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follows:
metal (alloy) mm/yr in/yr
steel (1010) 0 00 0 000
stainless steel (316) 0.00 0.000
aluminum (1100) attacks attack
brass 0.03 0.001
copper 0 03 0.001
magnesium 0.03 0.001
zinc 0.71 0.028
* do not use above 82°C (180°F)
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Dispose of according to all federal, state and local regulations.
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May be shipped by any common carrier. Freight classification is "Corrosive Solid, NOS, (Sodium Hydroxide,
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STORAGE
Suitable for general indoor storage. Keep container closed when not in use.
effect of high temperature-storage ................................... no adverse effect
effect of low temperature storage ................................... no adverse effect
effect of aging .................................................. ................ no adverse effect
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- I got told just heat it in a 55G drum - don't know how you would dispose of it though ?
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Re: Block Boil?

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its a caustic soda. available from radiator supply places. it has to be hot to work good. it will take off grease oil gime all o fthat and paint too. dont use it on aluminum for a very long period of time.
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:yt:

And the proper way to dispose of it is to have it hauled away by a hazardous waste contractor.

Best thing to do is to take it to an automotive machine shop.

Cost to have it cleaned by a machine shop = $25 (or thereabouts)

Cost to have a drum of it hauled away = about $750 (I know, I work with Haz Waste every day)

Cost of fine if EPA (or state regulatory agency) finds out that you didn't handle it properly = UNIMAGINEABLE!!!

(That's one of those "priceless" deals!!!)
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Why is it that there's seldom time to fix it right the first time, but there's always time to fix it right the second time???

That's not an oil leak :nono: That's SWEAT from all that HORSEPOWER!! :thup:
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Re: Block Boil?

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If you want to do it your self pick up a cleaner at Lowes or Home Depo called Purple Power. I used it to degrease my engine block for my 460. Stuff will even remove paint. Get the industrial strength stuff. Wear gloves and goggles.
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Re: Block Boil?

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Also - I just did mine with quick off oven cleaner - worked like a charm !

- Stephen
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Re: Block Boil?

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Thanks to everyone!
As usual excellent replies. I think I will find someone that can clean it. I don't think they can mess up much just cleaning the block! :fr:

Thanks!
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